Hwa-Ting Sports Podcast - Episode 26 Hosting Hangover

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Olympics hosting

Today on the show, we’re talking about the big name events like the Olympics and whether or not Korean people are tired of hosting them. Astute listeners have heard us talk about Korea hosting the Olympics and the World cup. In fact, Korea’s hosted multiple U series world cups. I went to a U-20 world cup game in Jeonju back in 2017, for example. So South Korea knows how to get its cup game on *joke sting*. In my neck of the woods, Korea even hosted an international garden expo and a world expo. However, as the events become more expensive to host, folks worldwide have become less enthused about hosting them. Korea loves to flex its soft power but the people here have lost a bit of interest. However, the government officials have a kind of cultural quote mandate unquote to create big projects as a way of cementing their legacy. This has led to quote white elephant projects unquote littering the landscape in rural communities and smashing local budgets. Recently, Jeonju and North Jeolla are bidding for the 2036 Olympics after Brisbane won the 32 bid. They’re aiming for a budget of 5 trillion won, but let’s call a spade a spade here- ain’t no way they gonna keep it that low when Paris’ hosting cost 10 billion dollars. They are trying to combine with regional cities to host the specialized events. However, the surfing aspect remains a big problem because…well, the waves in Goheung South Jeolla are just not that tall or consistent. Maybe Gangneung would be better? HARD emphasis on maybe. Anyway we need to talk about a pretty big elephant in the room- regional development.

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For listeners who don’t live in Korea, you gotta know by now that Seoul has the bulk of the nation’s quote mass unquote. And this is a big problem for regional development. I know talking about politics and urban renewal aren’t sexy topics on a sports show, but they are important things to consider. After all, stadiums don’t grow on trees. But anyway, fundamentally speaking, Seoul represents the better hosting place because it has more infrastructure already built, it’s closer to the major international airports in Gimpo and Incheon, and the nearby cities can host events that Seoul city doesn’t have buildings for. Jeonju would be a fascinating city for tourists to go to, however. It does have stadiums and it can coordinate with other cities like Gwangju that’s nearby. However, the city is not easy to get around, even with its extensive bus network. It doesn’t have the hotel base, it’s far from the international airports, and it doesn’t have a subway line. But worst off, I think memories are still a bit hardened over the Scout Jamboree. Now, most of that was handled by Jeonbuk State rather than Jeonju city since it was hosted in the Saemangeum reclaimed area by Gunsan. We’re going to talk about that disastrous event later today, but I want you to understand where the Olympic Committee is coming from if they decide to reject the bid.

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There are lots of good reasons to host a big event, don’t get me wrong. It puts a city on the world map for interested travelers and committees. But for places like Seoul, it’s already on the world map. In the 1960s, South Korea hosted the AFC Asian Cup and won the damn thing, but back then matches were only 80 minutes. In the 70s, Seoul wanted to host an Asian Games but North Korea was on the brink of war so that got nixed. It was around the time of Operation Paul Bunyan, I think. In the late 70s, President Park started the process but he was assassinated and the military government under Chun took over. During that time, there was a LOT, and I mean, a LOT going on. The military government didn’t want to be blamed for losing the Olympics, there were bloc boycotts because of Seoul’s anti-communist stance and the invasion of Afghanistan, the costs for the Montreal Olympics scared off many bidders, and some countries were mad at Japan for bidding to get it a third time. North Korea even tried to block the bid by spreading propaganda about South Korea having six hundred thousand AIDS patients and called the country a quote wasteland where people are naked and starving, and people search through trash cans to pick up even the food that the U.S. imperialists threw away unquote. So it became a bit of a national challenge to win the bid, especially with the evil brother to the north getting in the way. They were also aided by Nagoya’s bid being lackluster and their speaking only spoke Japanese while Korea’s speaker spoke English. See, kids?! This is why we tell you to pay attention in English class! You never know when those lessons on verbs will come in handy. Sure you probably won’t be giving a speech on the Olympic bid for your country, but you won’t know until it’s dropped on your desk *joke sting*. Hahaha, here mr Shin. Go to talk to the IOC and save our bid or you’re fired.

Anyway, after winning the bid, North Korea wanted the IOC to consider making it a joint hosting in Pyongyang on the auspices of peace. The way they went about making this happen was anything but peaceful. They planned the bombing of Gimpo airport in 1986, shot down flight 007 in 1983, and tried to kill Chun in Myanmar in 1983 as well. But it was the Chun administration's own blunders that almost cost them the olympics. During the protests, the people were able to challenge the military into steamrolling them and the military government backed off over fear of another boycott by communist bloc nations and others outraged by the massacre of civilians. Nowadays, Korea already has a lot of soft power and hosting big events has made the people a bit leery, especially without bloc politics amping up people’s emotions. But that means we need to talk about the less-successful hosted events.

2010-13 Korea F1 Gran Prix

For 4 years, Korea hosted the F1 gran prix race starting in 2010 in Yeongam Jeonnam close to Mokpo. My wife and I went to one of the races, the one with PSY as the flag waver. I actually got seats next to the starting line. It was exciting but people next to me were falling asleep. Motor sports here are a thing but people following races is not as common as in Europe or North America. So, the F1 became a money pit for the province and they dropped out of F1 in 2014. I feel like this is a good example of an event Korea should have planned better before implementing. There were issues with the paving of the track and the pit stop zones and the track’s countryside location made it a difficult experience to get fans there and back. Also the hotels weren’t close to the track at all, with many in Mokpo and Gwangju and the Italian team talked about staying in repurposed sex hotels. And yes that was a thing back in the old days *oohhh yeah*. But it’s not like the track’s not getting used these days. It is still used for circuit races like the Short Gran prix as well as speed racing challenges. The winter offseason should be over by the time you listen to this and the pro racing events should be on the calendar. We’ll talk more about it in a future episode, but the point is at the very least the Yeongam track is no longer a total failure.

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In 2014, Incheon hosted the Asian Games. To say things went poorly is an understatement. We’re talking about epic disaster levels that wouldn’t be topped until the Scout Jamboree. It put the city into debt for years and newspapers called for an audit of the committee over the expenses and issues related to the transportation system fiasco. Then there were the lunchboxes with salmonella, eww. You might’ve heard about the lunchboxes that were sent being expired but that was not completely true- it turns out they printed the wrong expiration dates on those lunchboxes. At any rate, the athletes on those days were fed chocolate bars . bread and milk like they were American middle schoolers! And then there were issues with the volunteers, hoo boy! The volunteers were demotivated and some just didn’t care and slept in the stands, or clout-chased taking pictures of themselves with the athletes, and many just watched the games and didn’t help anyone. Hell, one of them was accused of stealing the official baseball and asking a player to autograph it! *excited voice* BUT WAIT, THERE’S more! Members of the steering committee and the volunteers got caught gambling in the hallways of one of the stadiums. I mean come on, there’s a time and place for everything and in the middle of a well-covered international sporting event is NOT! BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE! A fourth of the volunteer interpreters quit because they weren’t getting support or far more work than they were originally told. Also, the shuttle buses would not stay past 10, leaving volunteers without a free ride home afterwards. So there were athletes from all over the continent and they had no staff to help them in any familiar language. But wait there’s more! The athlete’s village didn’t have air conditioners or mosquito screens on the windows! You had to bring your own air conditioning units. Hmm, let’s see, the average weight of a portable aircon is 27 kilograms. So if my free baggage limit is 30 kilograms, that means I have a grand total of…let me count it on my fingers…3 kilograms for the rest of my stuff. Yeah, that’s a brilliant idea! *joke sting* Also, one of the rooms in the village had a tub with no drainage so the athletes had to use the sink to bathe. And while they were able to make halal foods, the Muslim athletes didn’t eat it because the dishes were also used to make pork dishes, so they ate at local halal restaurants or skipped meals entirely. But wait, there’s more! During the badminton games, the aircon was too powerful and blew the shuttlecock around during the matches, leading the Japanese coach to accuse the Korean hosts of cheating. And later on, the power in the badminton stadium went out during a match as well. But wait, there’s more! The Thai baseball team had to train in the dark at Mokdong stadium because the staff that controlled the lights weren’t there on weekends, but then the lights came on around 6:40pm when the Thai team was wrapping up their practice and they were told it was a lighting test so they only had 20 minutes of light before they automatically turn off. Oh, and Thailand’s first game would be a night game, their first in fact. Can you say skullduggery 3 times fast. When you do, it sounds like the Incheon Asian Games, doesn’t it? But wait, there’s more! They didn’t build a locker room in the shooting range, so athletes' bags and guns were leaned against the walls during break times. Which they wouldn’t have spent much time at since reporters literally saw urine leaking out of the bathrooms. Talk about a piss-poor job *joke sting*! And then there was the incident in which Men's fencing saber bronze medalist Sun Wei was not told about the change in the shuttle bus schedule and his press conference ran late, so he went to the bus stop thinking the bus was gonna be there at 10:05pm. And it didn’t come so he had to call a taxi to take him back from the press village because their shuttle bus came at 10:30pm. So of course the staff members berated him for not taking the 9:30 bus. Uh, sir, I have a sabre and I know where to stick it *joke sting*. But wait there’s more! On September 28th, it rained and the referees had to mop the track, but it wouldn’t have been needed if they spent 1 million more on a proper track drainage system. Safety first, the Incheon motto! *joke sting* And then a drunk guy broke into the village restaurant and tried to fight the North Korean Judo team. Needless to say, he did not win that fight and got hauled out by security. And finally, in a pique of irony even an idiot savant couldn’t miss it, the closing ceremony song was I’m Sorry by CNBLUE. Yes, Incheon, you were. I could spend 10 minutes talking about this, but we have to move on. These were just the highlights. I’m including the wiki article in the notes for you to read along. Since then, Incheon has hosted smaller sporting events like the World Table Tennis Champions tournament and the World Aquatic Championships. I haven’t heard about any major disasters or out of control volunteers on the news from those events, so maybe they’ve figured out a niche.

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Gwangju Universiade, FINA championships (talk about their bids and their ROI)

The Gwangju Universiade was held in July 2015, with college teams from all over the world participating. Hence why it’s called a universiade and not a clubsiade *joke sting*. Anyway, the event was like a mini-olympics, with newly built apartments to host the athletes. You could say they took notes on what happened at Incheon and said “no, won’t be meee” and handled things well. I went to several events with my friends including baseball, basketball and fencing. Before I get off-topic, I should point out that Gwangju hosted a FINA event, a taekwondo championship, and they’re hosting an archery event this year. I think a lot of the facilities, including the ones run by universities, are still in use. They also talked about keeping things close to the budget, though the city had some debt issues for a while. I get the feeling from reading city materials that Gwangju is keen on hosting another big event like the Asian Games, but what about the locals?

2023 Scout Jamboree Disaster

And now we transfer to another disaster- the most infamous of infamies, the 2023 Scout Jamboree. You probably heard about this one on CNN or BBC. Remember the Fyre Festival. It was like that but worse. Well there wasn’t a beach pig for people to play with or dated 90s singers, but there were water problems! There were everything problems! Let’s start with the background for those unfamiliar with the event. The Scout Jamboree is an international event for the globe’s various scouting organisations, kinda like an expo for scouting. Korea has hosted it before, way back in 1991 in Seoraksan. There were issues there with inclement weather like flooding but nothing too major. Where the problems with the Saemangeum site began years before, almost practically before the bidding. So many problems…where should we begin? Ok…(pause) how about here? In a recent audit by the BAI reported in the Joongang Daily, the Moon Jae-In administration illegally used a farmland management fund to finance the reclamation of the Jamboree campsite in 2017. The ministry reported this to the administration but reversed its position shortly afterwards. The BAI criticized the move, saying, “the land designation was temporarily changed from tourism and leisure to reserved land to ostensibly resolve the problem of illegal use of the fund, and after the reclamation, it was decided to revert the land back to tourism and leisure.” And from this sketchy seed we can talk about the nature of the site itself. Saemangeum is a former tidal flat that is now reclaimed land formed from the construction of the world’s largest seawall in 2006. The authorities in the state have long planned to use the land for new agricultural space, tourism, and building an international airport. Hosting a big event there would be their way to showcase to the world that Jeollabukdo was ready for prime time. Just…a few problems with this. The reclaimed land had no trees, it’s barely above sea level, and there was nothing in the way of natural drainage on the site. Oh and did I mention they chose August to host the event? Know what August is known for in Korea? Typhoons and heat waves. Would you host an international event in the middle of hurricane season on a barrier island? No, you probably said. Well….that’s not what they were thinking.

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Disaster struck as soon as the scouts arrived. Like literally. The site was still flooded from the heavy monsoon season we had 2 weeks prior and with the high heat it was like being inside someone’s mouth. And then it rained some more. Why didn’t the organizers build proper drainage systems? The BAI audit pointed to the bidding process for toiletries and sewage, in which only 300 toilets were available for the roughly 40 thousand attendees and staff members. Specifically, the toilet contractor was supposed to have the toilets fully operational by June, it instead proposed to get everything done by 10 days before the events. But wait there’s more about the toilets! Sufficient signage was not installed, so people didn’t know which were men’s or women’s facilities. According to the audit reported in the Joongang Daily, The organizing committee signed a contract worth tens of billions of won for toilets and shower facilities. Over 1 billion won in cleaning services were exempted during the negotiation process. It got so bad that many toilets and power supplies were knocked out of commission during the event, and with only 70 sanitation workers, repairs were slow to happen. But wait, there's more about the toilets! (flushing sound) Prime Minister Han Duk-soo showed up and began cleaning the toilets himself! After he showed up the number of sanitation workers octupled to 540, but by then some scout groups had already abandoned the grounds. The audit found that Choi, the secretary general of the committee for sanitation at the event, falsely reported to the Gender Ministry that construction had been completed, even though it had not. As a result, piping for the toilet facilities was still unfinished on the opening day, July 25. Not only that, there was a sexual harassment issue in which the Thai scout leader followed the female leader into the women’s shower, which he claims was an accident but was witnessed by 100 scouts. The scout leader received a reprimand, but was not ejected. Meanwhile, Gender Equality and Family Minister Kim Hyun-sook was ordered to remain on the grounds to help coordinate the fixes, but instead she went to Byeonsanbando national park at night, with its air-conditioned facilities. Too bad she couldn’t take the bed-bug bitten kids there with her. BUT WAIT there more! (flushing sound)

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You heard me say bedbugs, right? Well, that was also a problem. The bedding got infested and kids got bit up, with some pictures in the news of their legs covered in welts. The high temperatures at the opening ceremony and beyond led to thousands getting heat exhaustion and the government had to send in air-conditioned buses so people could cool off. Naturally, there wasn’t much in the way of events due to the hellish conditions and a chunk of the grounds still flooded and full of mosquitos. And then it got worse. The scouts ran out of food because the power outage spoiled some of it, then the nearby convenience stores jacked up the prices of their foods, and finally there wasn’t enough food for vegetarians. Look I know the scout’s motto is be prepared, but how you gonna prepare for conditions like this? Do the scouts even train for dysentery these days? So on August 5th the first of the scout groups abandoned the site, followed by many others. The US contingent stayed at Camp Humpreys and the Italian group stayed at Incheon University. Other contingents stayed elsewhere around the country or fled the country. I think the country really opened their hearts up to accommodate the scouts and give them a better picture of Korea before they returned home. But wait there’s more! Things got worse. The Scout Movement, already displeased with conditions, ordered the event canceled and evacuated due Typhoon Khanum’s approach. So with that, the jamboree ended. Well, it technically ended when the jamboree moved the closing ceremony to Seoul World Cup Stadium and had a massive k-pop concert, which went very well but did enormous damage to the field. According to the Joongang Daily, the facility had to spend 153 million won on new grass, 19.9 million won on protective mats, 51.4 million won on pesticides and 19.6 million won on seeder machines in 2024. But wait, there’s more!

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After the scouts went home, the press and the legislature demanded investigations into the fiasco. Because things here are highly partisan and there wasn’t a clear line of command, the investigation dragged on for almost 2 years. But the WOSM was not hamstrung by the backbiting and blame shifting, and their audit released in 2024 pointed the bulk of the blame at the KSA, saying they quote deliberately misled the World Scout Committee, World Scout Bureau, and National Scout Organizations in its communications on the state of the event’s preparations” unquote. The audit found that Saemangeum was a quote “demonstrably high-risk site unquote and that the facilities promised were not built and the promised trees were not planted. Their setup of 5 co-chairs blurred lines of authority and lack of responsibility, along with the Korean government stepping over the KSA to essentially organize the event against Scout Jamboree practices. Which led to the terrible contracts, lack of backup plans, and government officials in Buan county flying off to foreign countries for sightseeing trips instead of learning large event organization like they were supposed to. During the legislature investigations, the Jeollabukdo governor was open for questions but the legislature never called him there. Instead, he deflected blame for the failure on to the federal government and to the scouts themselves for posting pictures and complaints about the conditions at the site. Oh, so it’s the kids fault they were promised trees and clean food, but instead wound up in an apocalypse movie? RIIGGHHHTTT. But anyhoo, the investigation became a series of finger pointing at the KSA, the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family which the Yoon administration promised to abolish, by the way. Yeah, maybe putting an organization in charge of an international event that you are planning to dismantle was not the best decision in the world. I’m just saying… Also, the matter wasn’t helped by government employees in charge of the event being retired or changing jobs with the change in presidents, along with the interior minister being impeached prior to the event and then reinstated in the middle of the disaster. But wait, there’s more! It’s interesting that the governor put the blame on outside forces when half the organizing committee was either chosen by him or were civil servants of the state already. But maybe he has a point given the amount of overpromises by the KSA and the lack of continuity between liberal and conservative administrations regarding the event planning. However, kids almost fucking died so he’s not getting any goddamn sympathy from me. Anyway, with the release of the BAI audit, we get a clear picture of the level of incompetence involved in the event. BUT wait, yes you know it, there’s MORE! (toilet flushing)

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So what happened afterwards? Let’s start with Saemangeum. A plan to build a theme park and resort complex got the green light from the government in 2023 according to reports in the Joongang Daily. Of course those plans may be reduced after the government severely cut funding to all projects in the reclaimed area due to the fiasco. See I told you this was worse than the Fyre Festival! Speaking of festivals, there are some online that claim the disaster cost Busan its bid to win the 2030 World Expo but I don’t know how true that is. They were up against Riyadh and Rome which is pretty stiff competition in my opinion. Speaking of competition, after the disaster many civil servants have forgoed the discounted international trips the government offers for training purposes. Some of that was due to them paying for trips themselves and avoiding the paperwork, but another reason was the higher scrutiny on the trips as I read in a recent article. And speaking of trips, the damage to the field from the concert was a symptom of overbooking and overuse of the stadium by the city, leading to terrible field conditions that led to the FIFA qualifiers being moved out of Seoul World Cup and into Yongin last year. Recently, Jesse Lingard almost spraining his ankle due to poor pitch conditions has pointed the finger at stadium management and the KFA lately, which could make it difficult to attract top talent to the league. Who wants to play on a crappy field and risk a season-ending injury? Look, I don’t want to sound too negative, but we’ve got a long way to go to get back our respectability after this fiasco. In the meantime, Jeonju is hosting a drone world cup in october so I’ll go and check it out to see how much their planning has improved.

But what about the actual mood of the people? Are they thrilled with the idea of hosting another Olympics? In my conversations with my students, none of them seemed interested in going, but that’s mainly because of the travel time and work issues. They didn’t go to the winter olympics either. Most of the adults I talked to didn’t seem keen on it, especially after the Scout Jamboree fiasco. As far as Jeonju itself, I haven’t seen any protests in the news, at least with my cursory look, but the feasibility survey by the ministry of sport has just begun, so that might change.

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Worst persons

Whew, ok nothing happened this week. I get to relax and (music plays) ohhh no, I thought we were safe! I thought everything was coming up milhouse! Nope, it’s not. We’ve got worst persons in the sports world.

Nap award goes to… Jeddah Saudi Arabia stadium officials and the ACLE for not allowing Gwangju FC to practice on the stadium grass. Usually, the official training before the game is held at the stadium where the game is being held so that the players can step on the grass themselves. However, according to Sports News Korea, the U-17 Asian Cup was recently held in Jeddah, and many games were also held at the King Abdullah Sports City Stadium, so the grass needs time to recover. And of course, Gwangju FC’s up against a Saudi team which gives them a disadvantage. Seems like Korea’s not the only place that’s having pitch problems these days.

The Radon award goes to… Daegu FC management and Coach 박창현 for getting removed 9 games into the season. The season has not gone well for Daegu FC and they are at the bottom of the table again. This will be their 3rd coach in 2 years. Not a good look for a team claiming to be good enough to be in K1. According to Daegu MBC a Daegu FC official said that they are currently in the process of reviewing a list of managers who are eligible to take the position, and that they are preparing as thoroughly as possible, even if it takes some time, in order to find the optimal answer between realistic difficulties and fans' expectations. In other words, we need to find a coach that can take our cruddy players into the playoffs. Good luck with that! You’re better off sticking to winning the FA cup this year to be honest.

The Plutonium award goes to… Mayor of Cheonan city who’s also the chairman of Cheonan City FC. Mayor Park Sang-don was removed according to reports on KBS News due to violations of election law. The Supreme Court's 3rd Division ruled yesterday that the original verdict sentencing Mayor Park, who was indicted on charges of violating the Public Official Election Act, to 6 months in prison and 2 years of probation. If an elected public official is sentenced to a fine of 1 million won or more for violating the Public Official Election Act in relation to an election in which he or she was elected, his or her election is invalidated and he or she loses their position. The first trial found Mayor Park not guilty, but the second trial found him guilty and sentenced him to one year in prison and two years of probation, which invalidated his election. The Supreme Court found him guilty of using a civil servant organization for election campaigning, but not guilty of publishing false facts. Which is JUST what we need in Korea, more election shenanigans! Hopefully the deputy mayor can steer the ship of both the city and the team, since the team’s not doing well. I hope he’s a soccer fan willing to make a LOT of trades. Former Mayor Park, today’s Plutonium award winner!

Game of the week!

Finally something that won’t grind my gears! Here are my picks for Game of the week! First up is Gwangju FC playing in Jeddah against Al-Hillal at 0 1 30 Korea time. If you’re up late or can’t sleep, get out some popcorn and watch away! Then you can go back to sleep. On Monday night at 7PM, I recommend women’s Football Seoul City at Gyeongju KNHP the nuclear power plant team. The game’s free on Youtube and they are close in the standings. You know both teams are chomping at the bit to get into the Women’s AFC championship next year! There’s also international tennis men’s finals in Gwangju on Sunday. And finally there’s the KBL playoffs! I’m thinking about LG Sakers vs Ulsan Mobis whatever on Saturday April 26. It’ll be game 2 with ____ in the lead. SK and KT are also going on as well.

Ending

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Notes

2014 Incheon Asian Games

Audit into bungled World Scout Jamboree uncovers 'mismanagement at every level'

Athletes hate Korea's stadiums. Why aren't they getting better?

Audit links Korean gov't to illegal financing of 2023 World Scout Jamboree campsite

Jamboree organizers face scrutiny for ignoring warnings

Three European scouts busted for shoplifting in Seoul

Bidding begins for airport on blighted Jamboree site

Football fans raise concerns after Jamboree concert leaves FC Seoul's field damaged

Gov't slashes Saemangeum budgets after Jamboree fiasco

Civil servants eschew overseas training after Jamboree fiasco

FA Cup semifinals rescheduled after postponement due to Jamboree concert, typhoon